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Doctor DC Podcast

Mar 6, 2019

In this week we sit down with filmmaker Neil Macdonald to talk all about the Burton-Schumacherverse Batman films!

Join us in our deep dive of all four of these Batman modern classics... three classics....two?...You decide!

Sponsored by Great Lakes Grooming Co. 

Intro Music by Aaron Barry

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Meet Neil Macdonald

(1:53) What Neil does

(4:15) Film school

(5:50) Describing Neil's asthetic

(11:00) Neil's career path

(14:10) Neil's comic history

(16:50) Memories of the Burton-Schumacherverse

(21:50) The Superman movie that almost was

(23:55) The 1989 Batman film


The Burton-Schumacherverse

(29:59) Worst/cheapest special effect in Batman & Robin, Robin being trapped in Ivy's vines.

(34:41) Confirming that the only good one is the first one?

(39:46) Bane.  Explain.

(48:03) Recasting a villain, adding villains, adding members of the Bat-family, casting Batman.

(59:27) Continuing the universe after Batman & Robin.

(1:03:20) What should have been carried over from the films to the comics?

(1:13:29) What story arcs did the films draw from?

(1:20:30) Which one is the guilty pleasure?

(1:27:41) Which actor gave the best villain performance?

(1:34:05) Why is Batman Forever named Batman Forever?

(1:40:48) What unique to the movies worked and what didn't?

(1:44:02) Casting Harley Quinn.

(1:48:13) Reimagining the Burtonverse to fit the Evil Alfred narrative.

(1:52:36) Was Tim Burton's Batman "killing" an issue for fans?


Dial Doc

(1:59:29) The Projectionist

(2:01:05) The Willow Man

(2:01:55) The Key Grip


Characters, Places, Things

**All links reference the character 's Burtonverse appearance unless otherwise noted**

Bane (Bane) (Nolanverse)


Batman (Burtonverse) (Nolanverse)

Catwoman (Burtonverse)

Harvey Dent (Burtonverse) (Nolanverse)

Jason Woodrue

Joker (Burtonverse) (Nolanverse)

Man-Bat (PreFlashpoint) (Rebirth)

Max Schrek

Mister Freeze


Poison Ivy



Scarecrow (Nolanverse)

Solomon Grundy (PreFlashpoint) (Rebirth)


Recommended Reading & Viewing

Batman: No Man's Land

Batman: Year One

Batman (1989 Film)

Batman Returns

Batman Forever

Batman & Robin



Joel Schumacher (Wiki)

Kevin Smith (Twitter) (Instagram)

Neil Macdonald (Website) (Twitter) (Instagram)

Tim Burton (Wiki)